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My questions have several parts:

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Samuel’s spirit is called forth from the grave by the witch of Endor, who is terrified when he actually appears.

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Jesus is seen talking to Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration.

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The parables of Lazarus and the rich man takes place in the after life why would Jesus use that information if the afterlife doesn’t exit?

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St Paul says “For me to live is Christ and to die gain, so if death in it until the resurrection why would he say such a thing?  Also he says he doesn’t know whether it’s better to stay on earth and sense Christ, or to depart to be with the Lord.

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I believe in Luke or Peter, Jesus is depicted as preaching to spirits of the departed.

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In Revelation, the spirits of martyred Christian as how long the Lord will wait before he brings everything to an end.

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Lastly, Jesus tells the Pharisees that their punishment will be greater because they suppressed the truth.  If so, why, is all unbelieving are going to be destroyed anyway.

The following is the answers to your questions,

Samuel’s spirit is called forth from the grave by the witch of Endor, who is terrified when he actually appears.

In 1 Sam 28:7-25 the Bible texts tell us that Saul actually went to seek counsel from the séance which is a spiritualist meeting to receive communications from the spirits.  1 John 4:1-3 tells us to be careful of the spiritual world.  “Beloved, do not believe every spirit but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.  By this you know the Spirit of God.  Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in to the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come into the flesh is not of God.  And this is the spirit of the AntiChrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.” 

The Bible did not record that it was “Samuel’s spirit.”  1 Samuel 28:14 say, What is this form?  And she said, “An old man is coming up and he is covered with a mantle.  And Saul perceived that it was Samuel and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down.  Here the Bible says,” the spirit is an old man, covered with a mantle and Saul perceive…and Saul stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down.”  Definitely this is not Samuel for the Bible in Ecc 9:5-6 “For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.  Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished; nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun.” Ecc 3:19 -21 says, "For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals; one thing befalls them: as one dies, so dies the other.  Surely, they all have one breath; man has no advantage over animals, for all is vanity.  And go to one place: all are from dust, and all return to dust.  Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?"    Therefore, when a person died he can no longer take care of us anymore and know nothing.

Jesus is seen talking to Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration.

At the transfiguration recorded in Matt. 17:1-6 both Moses and Elijah were not spirits they were living person.  God resurrected Moses immediately after he died; therefore Moses was already resurrected from death at the time of the transfiguration.  Duet 34:5-6 “So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord.  And He buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth Peor, but no one knows his grave to this day.” Elijah was transformed without going through death as recorded in 2 kings 2:11 “Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire and separated the two of them and Elijah went up by a whirl wind into heaven.”  During the transfiguration God sent both of them to encourage Jesus to accept the crucifixion.

The parables of Lazarus and the rich man takes place in the after life why would Jesus use that information if the afterlife doesn’t exit?

Luke 16:19-31 records the rich man and Lazarus, how they died, was buried and what happened in hell.   This is not a true story but is a parable that Jesus meant to teach the rich and the Pharisees about comparison.  Jesus is actually answering the question of the Pharisees who think that God bless the rich and cursed the poor.  Please note that before Jesus tells the story, He teaches them something, refer to Luke 16:13-15 “ No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else the will be loyal to the one and despise the other.  You cannot serve God and mammon.  Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, also heard all these things, and they derided Him.  And He said to them. “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts.  For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.”  Jesus wants the Pharisees to know that God does not look up to the rich neither look down upon the poor.  This has nothing to do with the spirit of man or afterlife situation. 

St Paul says “For me to live is Christ and to die gain, so if death in it until the resurrection why would he say such a thing?  Also he says he doesn’t know whether it’s better to stay on earth and sense Christ, or to depart to be with the Lord.

Gal 2:19-20 “For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.  I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.”  2 Cor 5:6-9 “So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord.  For we walk by faith, not by sight.  We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and be present with the Lord.  Therefore we make it our aim, whether present or absent, to be well pleasing to Him.”

In 2 Cor 11:23-33 you would know that Paul had difficult life on earth.  He was beaten, stoned, imprisoned and accused.  His sufferings on earth made him longed to be with Christ in the heavenly home.  His expression tells us that he wants to lay his burden of earthly things to go to Christ and join Him at the end.  This is Paul’s great hope in mind but he still have to fulfill his mission on earth and go to Christ with joy at the end.  It has nothing to do with the spirit after death.  Paul is just expressing his joy and hope after he has fulfilled his mission.

I believe in Luke or Peter, Jesus is depicted as preaching to spirits of the departed.

1 Peter 3:19-20 "by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is eight souls, were saved through water."  These texts actually relay to Christian sufferings.  Verses 17 & 18 tell us about Jesus Christ after he died…"being put to death" was being preached vigorously by the Holy Spirit "…but made alive by the Spirit."   Notice the word "Spirit" is in capital letter.   It is not the living spirit after death.  It is God's Spirit.  It talks about the past events that the same Spirit through Noah preached to “the spirits in prison” which means “who formerly were disobedient in the days of Noah.”  Please note that the text does not mean that after Jesus died, His Spirit went down to the hell and preached the gospel to the spirits who were in the prison as many claimed.

In Revelation, the spirits of martyred Christian as how long the Lord will wait before he brings everything to an end.

In Rev 6:9-11 when the "fifth seal" was opened John saw the vision of what will happen to the martyred Christian.  They are not the real spirits of the dead.  Actually, what John saw were people slaughtered in the past as verse 9 says "…who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held."  Verse 10 tells that they are waiting for the judgement of God at the end of the world "…How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"  This vision leads us to the future to give us the knowledge that there is another group of martyred as verse 11 says, "…the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were was completed."

Lastly, Jesus tells the Pharisees that their punishment will be greater because they suppressed the truth.  If so, why, is all unbelieving are going to be destroyed anyway.

Throughout the Bible Jesus told the Pharisees their punishment would be greater because the Pharisees have more light.  This is also applicable to all of us as a warning.  The greater light one is shown the more is expected from him as in Luke 12:47-48 "And that servant who knew his master's will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.  But he who did not knows, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few.  For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more."  This is just the same as receiving the gospel in John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."  Those who believe Jesus Christ will have eternal life and those who do not believe in Him will perish.


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